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	<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/</link>
	<description>Meri duniya - bilkul filmi</description>
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		<title>by: Gautham</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-51637</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>and maybe you should consider the possibility that your writing is in fact obscured by that same &quot;lens of racial bias&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and maybe you should consider the possibility that your writing is in fact obscured by that same &#8220;lens of racial bias&#8221;
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		<title>by: Gautham</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-51634</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I thought the film was overall unimpressive. The quality of the writing was not high.

I love what you call my &quot;personal color issues&quot;. Perhaps you are not aware, but Indian people like myself grow up in America constantly having our traditions mocked and our lives pointed out as if they are strange or curious.  At least that was the way it used to be. And then you grow up, and it's suddenly trendy to like bollywood, bhangra and all things indian. And you get a bunch of westerners like yourself, commenting authoritatively on all things Indian like they are experts, but of course with the requisite disparaging remarks about our culture, misogyny, backwardness or what have you. These are not just &quot;my issues&quot; these are things that the desi intelligentsia (the kind that don't watch bollywood, thank god) have been complaining about for years.

Still it's not shocking; white people love to exoticize and marginalize others, but as soon as you point this out, you're the one with &quot;color issues&quot;.

Let me ask you this, do you sincerely disagree that a person of Indian heritage is more capable of understanding and interpreting an indian film than a foreigner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the film was overall unimpressive. The quality of the writing was not high.</p>
<p>I love what you call my &#8220;personal color issues&#8221;. Perhaps you are not aware, but Indian people like myself grow up in America constantly having our traditions mocked and our lives pointed out as if they are strange or curious.  At least that was the way it used to be. And then you grow up, and it&#8217;s suddenly trendy to like bollywood, bhangra and all things indian. And you get a bunch of westerners like yourself, commenting authoritatively on all things Indian like they are experts, but of course with the requisite disparaging remarks about our culture, misogyny, backwardness or what have you. These are not just &#8220;my issues&#8221; these are things that the desi intelligentsia (the kind that don&#8217;t watch bollywood, thank god) have been complaining about for years.</p>
<p>Still it&#8217;s not shocking; white people love to exoticize and marginalize others, but as soon as you point this out, you&#8217;re the one with &#8220;color issues&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let me ask you this, do you sincerely disagree that a person of Indian heritage is more capable of understanding and interpreting an indian film than a foreigner?
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		<title>by: filmiholic</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-51356</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, BS, er, Gautham, you need to learn to differentiate between someone making a comment or observation on different markets (e.g. urban ones like Delhi or Bombay, and somewhere like interior UP) and looking down on the janta.

Any discussion of how a film is doing at the box offices in India sooner or later touches on these same differences, and what sells better where.

It's a pity that your personal color issues so strongly obscure your ability to absorb anything I write, save through a filter of racial bias.

It'd be interesting to hear you comment on the film itself; what you thought about it, what you liked and why or what you thought could be done better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, BS, er, Gautham, you need to learn to differentiate between someone making a comment or observation on different markets (e.g. urban ones like Delhi or Bombay, and somewhere like interior UP) and looking down on the janta.</p>
<p>Any discussion of how a film is doing at the box offices in India sooner or later touches on these same differences, and what sells better where.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity that your personal color issues so strongly obscure your ability to absorb anything I write, save through a filter of racial bias.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be interesting to hear you comment on the film itself; what you thought about it, what you liked and why or what you thought could be done better.
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		<title>by: Gautham</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-51346</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would disagree, there is a steady thread of condescension towards the general public in India running through your site. It seems at times as if you think you are a better judge of what is good in Indian film, than the very people that create it and it is made for.

Seems like typical Western arrogance to my eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disagree, there is a steady thread of condescension towards the general public in India running through your site. It seems at times as if you think you are a better judge of what is good in Indian film, than the very people that create it and it is made for.</p>
<p>Seems like typical Western arrogance to my eyes.
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		<title>by: filmiholic</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-48311</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sanjay, thanks for the link.  I wanted to see it at a festival recently, but it was on at the same time as something else and I had to forfeit it.

Gautham, my reference to NRIs and foreign audiences was that they are likely secondary and tertiary markets AFTER the domestic Indian audience has been considered.  I would definitely expect the film to do well in Bombay/Delhi/Pune etc.  

My point was that if they are indeed considering the NRI/foreign audience (which I understand from UTV folks they are), they needed to have someone give a final onceover at the subtitles.  It was just sloppy work.  And I never hinted, never mind implied, that &quot;foreigners&quot; are more sophisticated.  That's got nothing to do with it.  My point on the subtitles is that it's just a practicality, like making sure that a DVD is 'all regions', or region-appropriate, if you're going to sell it in another country than the home market one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanjay, thanks for the link.  I wanted to see it at a festival recently, but it was on at the same time as something else and I had to forfeit it.</p>
<p>Gautham, my reference to NRIs and foreign audiences was that they are likely secondary and tertiary markets AFTER the domestic Indian audience has been considered.  I would definitely expect the film to do well in Bombay/Delhi/Pune etc.  </p>
<p>My point was that if they are indeed considering the NRI/foreign audience (which I understand from UTV folks they are), they needed to have someone give a final onceover at the subtitles.  It was just sloppy work.  And I never hinted, never mind implied, that &#8220;foreigners&#8221; are more sophisticated.  That&#8217;s got nothing to do with it.  My point on the subtitles is that it&#8217;s just a practicality, like making sure that a DVD is &#8216;all regions&#8217;, or region-appropriate, if you&#8217;re going to sell it in another country than the home market one.
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		<title>by: Gautham</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-48261</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I thought the same thing about The Apartment when I saw this movie; it's almost a direct rip off of the plot. That's exactly what happens to Lemmon's character, right down to pining for his boss's girlfriend and being displaced from his home.

Why do you say this film is aimed at NRIs and foreign audience? From what I hear, it has been extremely well received in the Metros back home. Indians are not all ignorant and incapable of watching films aside from Bollywood romances, you know. Foreigners are not inherently more sophisticated either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the same thing about The Apartment when I saw this movie; it&#8217;s almost a direct rip off of the plot. That&#8217;s exactly what happens to Lemmon&#8217;s character, right down to pining for his boss&#8217;s girlfriend and being displaced from his home.</p>
<p>Why do you say this film is aimed at NRIs and foreign audience? From what I hear, it has been extremely well received in the Metros back home. Indians are not all ignorant and incapable of watching films aside from Bollywood romances, you know. Foreigners are not inherently more sophisticated either.
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		<title>by: sanjay</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-42875</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know whether you saw this movie, but I found it quite interesting:

http://www.vanajathefilm.com/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you saw this movie, but I found it quite interesting:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.vanajathefilm.com/index.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.vanajathefilm.com/index.html</a>
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		<title>by: filmiholic</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-42751</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Maja, welcome back!  Yes, it's definitely tighter than S-E-I, though I felt even this could have been trimmed a wee bit.  Haven't see the Lemmon film, so I can't comment, but in this case, he's doing it 'cos a lot of the men keep promising to speak up for him to get a promotion.Thanks, it's just one parent, and thank heavens, things are progressing slowly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Maja, welcome back!  Yes, it&#8217;s definitely tighter than S-E-I, though I felt even this could have been trimmed a wee bit.  Haven&#8217;t see the Lemmon film, so I can&#8217;t comment, but in this case, he&#8217;s doing it &#8216;cos a lot of the men keep promising to speak up for him to get a promotion.Thanks, it&#8217;s just one parent, and thank heavens, things are progressing slowly.
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		<title>by: Maja</title>
		<link>http://filmiholic.com/2007/05/13/metro/#comment-42737</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow, I wasn't aware of this movie at all! It sounds like the multiple storylines were handled much better than in Salaam-e-Ishq, I'm really interested in seeing this now. Especially for Dharmendra! 
Is it just me, btw, or is the bit about Sharman Joshi letting married men from his office use his apartment (including the series of phone calls ensuing from one man trying to reschedule his date) very &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; similar to the Jack Lemmon film &lt;i&gt;The Apartment&lt;/i&gt;?


I just read in one of your older posts about one of your parents not being well. I'm very sorry to hear that and I hope they recover soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I wasn&#8217;t aware of this movie at all! It sounds like the multiple storylines were handled much better than in Salaam-e-Ishq, I&#8217;m really interested in seeing this now. Especially for Dharmendra!<br />
Is it just me, btw, or is the bit about Sharman Joshi letting married men from his office use his apartment (including the series of phone calls ensuing from one man trying to reschedule his date) very <i>very</i> similar to the Jack Lemmon film <i>The Apartment</i>?</p>
<p>I just read in one of your older posts about one of your parents not being well. I&#8217;m very sorry to hear that and I hope they recover soon!
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